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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2002 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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I have a friend who has a theory about the Runner's World editors that they're trying to protect all their old records by making people lazy and unfit.
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Distance_Guru World Class

Joined: 09 Mar 2002 Posts: 1280 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 8:59 am Post subject: |
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You might be on to something there. I can see the headlines now
"ROOT OF REGRESSION IN AMERICAN DISTANCE RUNNING REVEALED, RW'S EDITORS EXPOSED!!!!" _________________ Time is the fire in which we burn |
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Hammer Varsity

Joined: 17 Jan 2002 Posts: 385 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Telling people what they want to here sells more magazines than telling the truth. |
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graeme Varsity

Joined: 04 Aug 2001 Posts: 451 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2002 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Then maybe RRN should publish an article called "Running Magazines Exposed"
I somehow ended up with a fairly recent issue of Running Times and all the headlines are things like "18 Weeks to your best Marathon" and "23 Energy Boosts". IMO many magazines loose there credability right on the front page. I've never read RRN though, I should get an issue. |
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Hammer Varsity

Joined: 17 Jan 2002 Posts: 385 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Even some of my HS runners have made some comments about the articles in Runner's World. |
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graeme Varsity

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Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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well, that doesn't surprise me since I make comments about them and I'm in high school  |
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Hammer Varsity

Joined: 17 Jan 2002 Posts: 385 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry I typed that post rather quickly. I meant to say that Some of my HS athletes have been saying some negative things about the articles in Runner's World. |
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graeme Varsity

Joined: 04 Aug 2001 Posts: 451 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Fri May 24, 2002 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, I assumed that was what you meant. |
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Distance_Guru World Class

Joined: 09 Mar 2002 Posts: 1280 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2002 8:56 am Post subject: |
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My old high school coach still thinks that Joggers Digest, is a bible of the sport. Of coarse he also hasn't had a descent distance runner since 1997 either. I try and I try to help him but he insists in following those horrible run your best on less than 20 miles a week, programs. He's affraid of burning his athletes out. All the while at York high school Joe Newton has kids running more on the first two days of practice their senior year (47) than most high school kids will ever put in, in an entire week of training in their high school careers. And people wonder why York is the best high school cross country program in the nation year after year. _________________ Time is the fire in which we burn |
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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 9:06 am Post subject: |
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That's scary to think that coaches are getting their information from Runner's World. I can't comprehend why anyone would think of it being anything but a general fitness magazine catering to the masses... The anger at RW is misplaced, in my opinion -- it should be directed at those who take it to be something it isn't intended as (the editors have said publicly that they view it as a general fitness resource, not for competitive racers).
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Distance_Guru World Class

Joined: 09 Mar 2002 Posts: 1280 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 9:27 am Post subject: |
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I agree with you that much of the anger should be directed at coaches that use the wrong source material as a base for their training programs, how ever I have never actually heard or read anything stating that RW should be considered a fittness magazine for the masses. (I figured that out for myself) And you can bet that if I haven't heard it 90% of the misguieded individuals using it haven't heard it either. And with all the outlandish claims (ie Run the best race of your life in four weeks) it seems that they are marketing towards people that want to be competitive.
I would simply like to see them endource programs that could work for someone that isn't running their first ever 5k. To talk more in depth about the training programs of the best in the world, or America at least. And for goodness sake put a real athlete on the cover of the magazine every once in a while. At least pay lip service to the magazines name or change the title to the more appropriate Jogger's Monthly. _________________ Time is the fire in which we burn |
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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Sun May 26, 2002 9:35 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | how ever I have never actually heard or read anything stating that RW should be considered a fittness magazine for the masses. |
Well, you don't expect them to advertise the fact heavily, do you? That would be some rather poor marketing... It has been admitted freely on the likes of the t-and-f list, and I believe I saw something from Amby Burfoot on RW online.
Quote: | And with all the outlandish claims (ie Run the best race of your life in four weeks) it seems that they are marketing towards people that want to be competitive. |
Well, they're marketing toward people that want to run, and most people that want to do something want to do it reasonably well. How is that any different than a beauty magazine claiming on the cover, "10 ways to great skin in a week?" They're in the business of selling magazines, which means catering to the target audience. If RW wrote magazines the way you want them to, their subscriber base would probably go down by more than 50%.
Quote: | At least pay lip service to the magazines name or change the title to the more appropriate Jogger's Monthly. |
Well, it is Runner's World, not Racer's World... I don't see anything inconsistent or hypocritical about the name.
If people are not intelligent enough to see through the marketing and understand the depth of what they are reading, then they aren't intelligent enough to be coaching impressionable youngsters, plain and simple.
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Distance_Guru World Class

Joined: 09 Mar 2002 Posts: 1280 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2002 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Just trying to spread the message.
RUNNER'S WORLD SHOULDN'T BE READ BY ANYONE THAT IS COACHING ATHLETES THAT WANT TO BE GOOD!!!!!
_________________ Time is the fire in which we burn |
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training2run Varsity

Joined: 08 Jun 2002 Posts: 253 Location: CyberSpace
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2002 7:05 pm Post subject: Rest Days |
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Rest day is just that - no running. Do something else that's non-impact. I generally have an easy day (45 minutes) after my hard day (2 1/2 to 3 hours), and follow that with a day off (weight training).
Depending on your ability to recover, I recommend running either five or six days a week. The important thing is, unless you're injured, do not take off running two days in a row. Mike www.training2run.com |
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training2run Varsity

Joined: 08 Jun 2002 Posts: 253 Location: CyberSpace
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Posted: Thu Jun 06, 2002 7:17 pm Post subject: Runner's World |
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Unlike Runner's World, I recommend carbohydrate depletion and loading for marathoners, and developed a relatively comfortable procedure.
Runner's World gave me static, and said it wasn't worth the bother for a the slight (2% to 3%) performance improvement.
Who are they kidding. Just about any 3:03:00 marathoner would give his eye-teeth to break 3 hours, and two percent would do it. Mike www.training2run.com |
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