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Conway
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 Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:39 am Post subject: 2003 Wrap Up |
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Must be time to wrap up the season as we knew it !!!! You know ... Closing thoughts, Athletes of the Year, Rankings .... That kind of stuff ... Anybody game ???
Was an interesting season ... A lot of transition across the board ... The "old standby's had it rought this year ... Greene, Dragila, Montgomery, Devers, Gebressellassie, among others had their hands full and then some ... Lots of disappointment to go around ...
New faces popped up such as Usain Bolt, Darrrell Brown, Bekeli Kenenisa, Kipchoge Eliud ...
Some maintstays were just that as ElG added the 5000 and was awesome twice over ... While Felix Sanchez is the new Moses ...
Lots to talk about ... Where do ya'll want to start ????
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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Bring it on...
I really look forward to seeing the development over the next few years of Usain Bolt and Darrel Brown. Could be some very exciting young sprinters. The women's sprints will be very interesting if Marion and Zhanna come back at full strength and upstarts like White/Edwards/Sturrup/Hurtis are as strong as this year. Add in Gaines, possibly a rejuvenated Inger Miller, and maybe a back from who knows where Tayna Lawrence...
Kipchoge strikes me as the next Komen...
Athlete of the Year could be tough this year. Mutola will garner serious consideration, as will Sanchez. ElG is always up there, but the times were somewhat average this year without the top competition. Radcliffe hardly competed, so she doesn't deserve much more than the sentimental vote. Performance of the Year is a different matter, though. Hard to think of anyone more deserving than her for the London WR.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Bolt, Brown, Gatlin, Patton, Buckland ... I think these are the future of the sprints .. I'm not sure we'll see what we saw in the 90's from them ... But then I'm not sure we will see that type of sprinting again for a while ...
These guys should rule the future starting with next year's Olympics ... On the women's side I don't see much difference from this year ... Just add Marion to the mix ...
This year's Athlete of the Year will be interesting ... Actually I favor ElG this year ... Added the 5000 and ran it extremely well ... That took a lot in my opinion ... Outside of that who do you look at ??? Sanchez I guess ... Not much else ...
Women's side same story ... Who ??? Paula got AOY off of London already ... Can't use that again ...
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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I definitely should have included Gatlin in the young future, seeing as how he'd only be a senior now. Not sure about Patton; hasn't he been around a few years? I see him maybe being a Bernard Willams type. Very good, but in more of a supporting role. How old's Buckland? Wasn't there another guy Brown's age headed into NCAAs last year? I'm drawing a blank on who it was... It wasn't Asafa Powell, was it?
| Quote: | | Paula got AOY off of London already ... Can't use that again ... |
Wasn't that for last year, though? 
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Dan wrote: | | Quote: | | Paula got AOY off of London already ... Can't use that again ... |
Wasn't that for last year, though?
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That was my point .. That it was for last year ... Not sure she qualifies for this year ...
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| Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Unless I'm remembering things wrong, didn't she have outstanding races at London the past two years? I believe the current WR applies to this year's POY voting.
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Conway
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:08 am Post subject: |
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You're right ... 2:18 last year and then 2:15 THIS year ... Now that is excellence ... So I guess that will settle Performance of the Year on the Women's side !!! Nothing tops that this year either ...
Any suggestions on the men's side ??? Guess we can wait and see IF Geb can get his 10,000 record this weekend ... This year's 10k time would be in the running as would Sanchez' hurdle time I suppose ... Sprint and middle distance marks were weak this year ... Shot put mark perhaps ...
26:29.22 Geb
47.25 Sanchez
22.67 Toth (74'4.5)
I'm not sure anything else rates as well as these marks do ...
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I would lean toward Sanchez's mark. It wasn't too long ago that Geb was making times like that look like a typical day at the office... Running an average race shouldn't count for performance of the year, in my opinion.
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Geb may have been making it look easy ... But that doesn't tranlate into it being an average race .... Those marks are waaaaaay out there for even the most elite ... The fact that Geb could go back to that level is impressive within itself ...
Toth's mark may be the most impressive given that it is likely to be unaided by "substances" as others prior to him may have been ...
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| Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Average for Geb is what I meant, although it's obviously one of his better races.
I've got an anti field event bias... 
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Why anti field event ??? Tough to perform there as well ... Ever try to do any of that stuff ??? Not too easy ... LOL ...
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 8:32 am Post subject: |
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I just don't have the interest or knowledge, so field results are just numbers to me. I know a 73' shot put is good, but it doesn't impress me like a 3:29 1500m. I just don't have the frame of reference to care all that much one way or the other.
Good thing I'm not one of the AOY/POY voters. 
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| Dan wrote: | I just don't have the interest or knowledge, so field results are just numbers to me. I know a 73' shot put is good, but it doesn't impress me like a 3:29 1500m. I just don't have the frame of reference to care all that much one way or the other.
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Maybe this'll help you. Take a large bowling ball to your local basketball court. Now try to throw it from one baseline all the way to the free throw line on the other side of the court. Pretty hard huh?
I used to be like you and was impressed more by running events, but now that I run I'm more impressed with some of the field events. Most notably are the high and long jumps (especially the long jump. How a human can get a first down in one step is beyond my understanding). The only running events that impress me as much as field events are the 10k and 3k.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Don't worry, I've spent plenty of time around the various field events, toyed with a few of them briefly, and even coached athletes who doubled in some of them. I know perfectly well the different challenges, but they just don't do much for me. Golf probably has a lot of similarities to the javelin, and I sure as heck don't care about that... To each his own. I don't pretend to enjoy stuff I don't enjoy, but a lot of people don't understand that. My college roomates always found it odd that I left the room when a TV show I didn't care for came on.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Did anyone beat Mutola this year? For some reason I was thinking she was undefeated and if that is true then I would lean toward her on the women's side.
Probably El G on the mens.
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