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Shaun Fox Water Boy

Joined: 15 Jul 2001 Posts: 78 Location: Peterborough, England
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2001 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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how important do you think mental preperation is to a race, ive heard some people say being prepared mentally is as or even more important than being prepared physically. |
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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 4:37 am Post subject: |
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I'd say mental and physical are both 90% of the picture.
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Shaun Fox Water Boy

Joined: 15 Jul 2001 Posts: 78 Location: Peterborough, England
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 5:14 am Post subject: |
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whats the other 10%? i guess natural ability? |
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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 6:29 am Post subject: |
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What I meant is that mental is 90% and physical is 90%. In other words, each one on its own is the majority of the game plan, but neither is more important to the other.
Since you mentioned ability... I like to look at it from the stanpoint of what I call the 3 T's: talent, toughness, and tenacity.
Talent: Talent pretty much speaks for itself. Although some would argue that talent is not intrinsic, but realized through proper training, I separate that training element into the other T's and leave talent as something that is pretty much unchangeable. You work with what you've got.
Toughness: This is largely mental, whereas talent is largely physical. Toughness is how hard you can make yourself work, how well you can ignore pain, etc. Although some people clearly are tougher than others, I believe toughness can be improved fairly proportionately with conditioning.
Tenacity: This one is my favorite, because it is completely up to the individual and, unlike the others, the sky is the limit. No matter how difficult the obstacle or intimidating the goal, you have to be tenacious to overcome it and proceed. Same goes for recovering from injury. Tenacity measures your ability to bounce back from something, regardless of whether or not you were tough enough to avoid it in the first place.
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graeme Varsity

Joined: 04 Aug 2001 Posts: 451 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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A big part of running is mental... but I don't think it's the mental "preparation" that makes up most of that 90%. I think it's more about the person who really wants it more and is willing to push themself to the limits. |
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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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It seems to me you've defined precisely what mental preparation is! How else would you define it?
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graeme Varsity

Joined: 04 Aug 2001 Posts: 451 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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I think of mental preparation as the things that you think about right before a race, like your pace, strides or breathing. Some people may psyche themselves up before a race but I think the will to win is something that just depends on how hard you've worked and other things that occur over time. |
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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2001 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I think the will to win is something that just depends on how hard you've worked | Which is still mental preparation, is it not? You cannot put in the hard workout without the will to do so.
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graeme Varsity

Joined: 04 Aug 2001 Posts: 451 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 7:33 am Post subject: |
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What I'm saying is that I think of mental preparation as how you get ready RIGHT BEFORE the race. The will to win is usually something you've developed over time.... but that's just my opinion. Kind of hard to explain what I'm saying though. |
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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Ok, so what would you call the mental determination that goes into training? It sounds to me as if you're looking at mental aspects as something you either have or don't, not something that gets developed and leads toward training results. Consider that first hard interval workout of the year, where you are about to puke half way through and feel like quitting, to the same one late season that feels like a walk in the park. Would you agree that you feel mentally tougher during the latter workout?
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graeme Varsity

Joined: 04 Aug 2001 Posts: 451 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that you could feel mentally tougher during a workout later in the season. I'm not saying it's something you have or you don't. I just mean that part of the mental aspect is determination that you've had over a long time. Most people wouldn't decide they want to win a race 5 minutes before hand. They have wanted to win it for a long time usually, so I don't think of that part as preperation. |
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Dan Chief Pontificator

Joined: 22 Mar 1999 Posts: 9334 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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I understand what you're saying, but I don't see how determination can be differentiated from the mental aspects, of which preparation is inseparably intertwined.
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graeme Varsity

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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't say that determination isn't mental. I just don't think that it's 100% pre-race preperation. |
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Dan Chief Pontificator

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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Of course not. What I'm saying is that pre-race and during the race are largely the same mental preparation. There's no meaningful way to assign a percentage to it, just like there's no way to separate it into two items.
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graeme Varsity

Joined: 04 Aug 2001 Posts: 451 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2001 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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There, now we agree |
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