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 Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 6:51 pm Post subject: Usain Bolt and U.S. College Athletics |
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___I believe that Usain should get into the adult competition as soon as possible. I have never been able to understand people who would try to deny a gifted individual a financial opportunity because somebody is too young. American football may serve as the primary example.
___The American University system of athletics is very unjust to the young men and women who participate. Let face the facts: not everyone is capable of graduating from a 4-year college or university. Therefore, not everyone is going to benefit from going to a 4-year college.
___I know that a lot of people make a lot of money of the college athletics. However, it would be much more beneficiary to the young athletes to introduce the European system of 2nd and 3d professional and semiprofessional divisions, and allow stipends to be paid to young athletes continuing education in the fourth division.
___However, there are many people in the United States to whom this simple, just presented, idea seems to be beyond the grasp of humanity. Yes -- the idea is within the grasp of anyone who understands that everyone is different. No one within this human race is the same as another person.
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Dan
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| Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The American University system of athletics is very unjust to the young men and women who participate. Let face the facts: not everyone is capable of graduating from a 4-year college or university. Therefore, not everyone is going to benefit from going to a 4-year college. |
How is that unjust? They get a free education and some good training and competitive opportunities, so long as they choose to play by the rules in place. A lot of people would happily jump at that deal.
You don't even have to graduate to reap the benefit...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| Dan wrote: | | Quote: | | The American University system of athletics is very unjust to the young men and women who participate. Let face the facts: not everyone is capable of graduating from a 4-year college or university. Therefore, not everyone is going to benefit from going to a 4-year college. |
How is that unjust? They get a free education and some good training and competitive opportunities, so long as they choose to play by the rules in place. A lot of people would happily jump at that deal.
You don't even have to graduate to reap the benefit...
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___Yes, it is to people who cannot graduate, get talked into going to a 4-year college instead of making money as professional athletes, and get injured along the way. They are left high and dry. They are left without a college degree, and their possibility to make money of athletics is gone. All that is left to them is a low paying job, and a disability payment, or at best a coaching position. 
___Even not so great an athlete can make up to half-a-million before he gets booted off the team next season. 500,000 dollars or 250,000 dollars after taxes is enough to start making money of an investment like, for example, a multifamily house rented to 4 or 5 families. 
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Dan
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| Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Who's talking anyone into anything??? It's a free decision, last I checked. 
Webb went for the money, and it hasn't worked out too well for him...
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Dan
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I thought we were talking about track... 
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Let me toss in my two cents ...
1. First off I would say that there is inequity within the collegiate system and its rules ... HOWEVER, athletes know going in what the rules are and can choose to either play by those rules or not ...
2. I do not agree with the statement about individuals that CANNOT graduate ... These individuals could graduate if they chose to ... Many simply don't give a damn and are USING the college as a means of getting an "audition" in front of those who will be making professional "drafting" decisions ...
3. I would refrain from making the assumption that athletes are being denied the opportunity to make a living as a professional athlete due to their age or grade in school ... Very few athletes in any sport are ready to become professionals right out of high school or even during their early years in college ... For those that are there are ways by which it is already occuring ... But for most young people, college allows them to mature - mentally, emotionally, and physically ...
4. The one thing that I do not like about the college system is that the schools make millions of dollars off the efforts of the young people and they are not allowed any remuneration in return ... Yes I understand that they get a FREE education that others have to pay for ... And in many cases this includes room and board ... But this is for the elite few as scholarships are at a premium and eveyone playing does not get them ... The majority of the kids playing sports never get a dime, but rather thier parents (or someone) is footing the bill ... And even in the case of the scholarship athlete, the cost of his education is minute compared to the money that high level sports programs receive via bowl games, NCAA championship appearances etc ... And as we all know life consists of more than going to class and reading books and the occasional meal ... Most of these kids are far from home and friends ... Have a need to communicate with them and/or visit on occasion ... And have a need for clothes, and recreation while at school ... None of these things are taken into consideration under the current NCAA guidelines ...
So yes, going to college and playing sports is a good thing ... And if you can get a scholarship to do so you are able to save a bundle on the cost of the eduation you are given the opportunity to obtain (whether you do so or not) ... But there are inequities in the system that need to be addressed ... Even so, it is the best training ground available for those who wish to become professional athletes - at any cost ...
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