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Conway · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:24 am Post subject:

Exactly ... Why is it you have such a hard tiem with Greene ??? For example, if he had won in Athens where would you rank him ??? My guess is #1 as he would have won most of the domestic meets against the likes of Capel, Crawford and Gatlin; he would have own the Trials; and he would have won the Games ... And if that is the case then you are saying that for him the difference between a great season and a so so one was .02 ...
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Dan · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:42 am Post subject:

If he had won, he'd be #1 or #2. Not clear cut either way. But he didn't, so it's a moot point. Smile

Perhaps part of what I've got against Mo is he talked himself up so much (GOAT and all) that anything short of gold was a failure.

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Conway · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:01 am Post subject:

It's not a moot point ... Fact is he ran a great race and was just edged out ... As opposed to Powell who was a non factor in the race ... In the races that mattered Mo was always a factor ...

And in the same vein so was Gatlin ... Second at Trials and winner of the Games ... He was right there in the two biggest races of the year ...

Powell won everything that did not matter ... Crawford won nothing but was always right there ... So how bout:

1. Gatlin
2. Greene
3. Powell
4. Crawford
5. Obikwelu
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Dan · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:17 pm Post subject:

I agree with the order except for #2... Call it a personal vendetta, if you will, but I feel Mo set himself up for failure by making anything less than a gold be a disappointment, so that reflects in my ranking him no better than 3rd, and probably 4th.

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Conway · Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:23 pm Post subject:

Anyone else before we try to finalize this and move forward ???
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Micah Ward · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:39 am Post subject:

Can't argue with those.
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Conway · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:57 am Post subject:

LOL .... Which ones ??? LOL ...
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Dan · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:12 am Post subject:

Yeah, we're all over the board. Micah's just an agreeable guy. Smile

I'll be out today and tomorrow...

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YUKON QUEST · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:06 am Post subject:

just few words...

Conway, it's true Gatlin won only two races this year, but those are the most important ones! and this should be the goal! remember that he qualified also in trials (100-200)
(I'm not a Gatlin's fan)
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Conway · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 10:24 am Post subject:

I agree that his Games win was important ... But the other race was just and end of the season meet - not very important ...

He did run second at the Trials and I do put that in his favor ... But in reality had he not won at Athens he would be no more regarded than Obikwelu ..

My theory on winning a big race like the Games or Worlds is that they are the most important race of the year ... But your reward was the gold ... In order to claim more than that you must win elsewhere ... And Gatlin for all intents and purposes could not ...

Powell on the other hand was just the opposite ... Won everthing except the Games ... Mo won a lot and placed high a lot and always ran well when it mattered ... Crawford was simply fast all season long - 3 sub 9.90's and only one win with them ... Of these four every one of them brought a "dish" to the table, but no one brought a "full meal" ...
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Micah Ward · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 11:20 am Post subject:

1. Powell
1. Greene
1. Crawford
1. Gaitlin
5. Obikwelu

If no one is dominate and everyone has something going for them and something going against them then it either is a tie or you decide what will be the tie breaker and use that.
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Indeurr · Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject:

Dan · Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:59 am Post subject:

I think we've pretty much beat the men's 100m to death... Shall we move on to the women's 100?

I would pretty much go with the order of the Olympic final on this one...

1) Nesterenko
2) Williams
3) Campbell
4) Bailey
5) Lalova

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Yeah I know I am late for this but figured I would throw my hat into the ring as well

Men 100M

1. Greene
2. Powell
3. Gatlin
4. Crawford
5. Obikwelu

Basically I have Greene ahead of Powel because he finished ahead of him in the Olympic Final Otherwise it would have been Powell - Gatlin also trumps Crawford in my book beacuse of that one race but Powell was probably the most dominant all season - but every meet it was billed as Powell/Greene the others seemed to be viewed as participants - if the poll was taken befor ethe final it probably would have been Powell first for everyone...

Womens 100M
1) Nesterenko
2) Williams
3) Campbell
4) Lalova
5) Arron

I don't think there will be much dispute over 1 and 2 there at all. Lalova ran the fastest time of the year by far. Arron over Bailey ran multiple times faster and had some high placings during the season
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Dan · Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 8:44 am Post subject:

L. Williams really isn't a lock for #2. She came on strong at the end of the year, but if you don't weight the Olys heavier than other races, she's probably 3rd or 4th on the season.

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