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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think if Jacobs is healthy she wins in a walk ... I don't see anyone else running that fast indoors ... I wish the young Turkish girl were there as she has tremendous heart ...

Fredericks I think was suffering from having just come back last season ... Takes a season or two to get ones full conditioning back ... I expect that he will be ready by the end of the season when the Outdoor championhsips roll around in Paris ...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Takes a season or two to get ones full conditioning back ...

I would normally agree with that, but I'm not so sure with someone who surprised many people by coming back at all and who has been around the block as many times as Frankie has. I always enjoy watching him compete, though, so I'd love to be proven wrong.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that it is his experience that will enable him to be ready when the time comes ... He knows his regimen and he knows his body ... He knows what to do ... And he ahs shown in the past that he will not appear unless he is ready to compete well ... I think we will see a Frankie this year that we haven't seen this millenium ... Question is will it be good enough ...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First day report!

Men's 60m

Gatlin 6.46
Collins 6.53
Gardener 6.55
Lewis-Francis 6.57

Gatlin was the class athlete in the field. He won his heat in 6.53 and his semi in 6.56. MLF won semi 2 in 6.55 and Gardener semi 3 in 6.54 to set up a promising final.

But Gatlin got a great start and was a very clear winner. He has a very unusual style, almost hunching over for the first 20m. He is very powerful and looked like he was still accelterating at the end. He's a nice guy too, very pleasant in interviews and disarmingly awestruck when meeting Michael Johnson (commentating for the BBC) in the studio afterwards. He says his main event for 2003 will be the 200m, with 100m for experience. He is one of the most exciting young talents I can ever remember seeing.

Gardener was pleased with his bronze after injury. MLF was distraught - he was never there after a poor start. Collins' 6.53 came from nowhere - he is a great champs runner and seems to enjoy gatecrashing UK parties (remember the Commonwealth Games!).

Terrence Trammell was injured in the heats and will also now miss the 60mH.

Men's 200m

John Capel pulled out with injury and Shawn Craford and Bobby Williams were dq's for running outside their lane in the semis! So Devonish is a clear favourite in tomorrow's final. No Fredericks.

Men's 400m

Washington and Caines tussled in the heats, Caines wining 45.85 to 45.90. Washington baulked Caines at least twice, promtting MJ to comment that you have to run with your head as well as your legs! He was lucky not to be dq'd - do the same in the final and he will be. Even so, Caines looked too strong for him, coming past easily round the final bend. They went through 200m in 20.97.

Women's 60m

Dominant Block winning in 7.04. Tori Edwards 2nd in 7.16 and Angela Williams 3rd in 7.17. Block was delighted but both Americans looked really grumpy.

Women's 200m

Michelle Collins ran a US record of 22.31 and Muriel Hurtis a French record 22.49 to set up a tasty-looking final. All six final qualifiers ran under 23 secs in the semis.

Women's Pentathlon

Carolina Kluft was dominant, setting 4 lifetime bests out of 5 events. She's a real star, full of enthusiasm and enjoying it all.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Full results:

http://www.iaaf.org/WIC03/results/byEvent.htmx

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the report! Almost as good as being there. Smile

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Gatlin ... has a very unusual style, almost hunching over for the first 20m.

That's what I was noticing in watching him for the first time at the Millrose meet when I commented that it looked like he never fully opened up and got up to speed. It may just be his style of running, but it leads me to believe he'll be an absolute monster in the Outdoor 200m this year...

I get the feeling no one really wants to run the Indoor 200m, but they want to have made the team...

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Washington baulked Caines

What's baulked mean? Bumped? Tripped? The only baulk I know of has a meaning that doesn't fit. Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baulk means to physically impede, block, get in the way. Washington cut across Caines twice, forcing him to chop stride both times. The indoor 400m is a rough and tumble event and Caines gives as good as he gets, but Washington showed his inexperience.

It made no difference to the result but if it had done, for example if Caines had fallen or been pushed down to a non-qualifying position, Washington would have been dq'd.

More to the point, Caines looked much stronger than him in all phases of the race. Gatlin was today's star though. He's a nice guy, he impressed in interviews after the race. Confident but modest. He also looks exactly like Will Smith in his Fresh Prince of Bel Air days.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been saying for a cuople of years now that Gatlin is the second coming ... he is so fluid ... And hunched over look is his drive phase ... Once he gets going he just flows ... I am looking fo rsub 19.70 out of him this year ...

But to me the most exciting result is that of Collins in the 200 ... 22.31 bodes for near sub 22 outdoors .... AND for low 49 (or better) in what is supposed to be her event ... We could finally have another great long sprinter in the US among females ... Something we really haven't had since Gwen Torrence ... I know we have MJ, but she lacks something ...

Men's 400 I'm still bettin on Washington ... HE has the best 400 coach in history and I think they'll get things straightened out by the final ... But 20.97 is an awesome openeing and if Caines can do that then Tyree will have to fight for everything he can get ....
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who was the first coming, MJ? Or would we be going back to Tommie Smith?

If Michelle Collins continues this string of success at the 200, do you think maybe she'll stick with it for Outdoor? I'm pretty sure the real reason for her success Indoor is the emotional high she's on after having anchored Team Run-Down's Fantasy squad last summer...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used second coming sort of generically ... There is always someone new ... People always say someone can't be replaced but then you look around and there is someone else to talk about ...

Gatlin is just an awesome talent ... As much as I like Mo I would not be surprised if Gatlin won a sprint double outdoors in Paris ... Not saying I am predicting it because I am still putting my money on Mo (at least until I see how healthy he is outdoors), but if GAtlin were to do the double it would not be a total surprise to me ... The kid is talented and extremely mature competitively .... And if he starts out well outdoors people are going to wondering why Tim really left Trevor !!!!

Oh ... Update ... Word on the street is that TIm and Marion now have a new coach - Lllewellen Starks ... Former Long Jumper out of LSU ... Oh and there workouts are being observed daily in NC by one "he who shall not be named" ...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, so Tim and Marion hired a new front? Does this one come with credentials, or are the batteries not included? Neutral

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now this is not all confirmed (as in offcial media and such) ... But Llewellen was a 27 foot long jumper ... So I would guess you could say he is legit ... But I don't want to take away from the Worlds ... As teh competition is just heating up and looking good and there is much to discuss there ... But I did just want to mention that ...

Oh ... And didn't I say Zhanna was a clear favorite in teh women's sprint !!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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didn't I say Zhanna was a clear favorite in teh women's sprint !!!!

Yeah, I seem to recall something of that sort being mentioned. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

News flash of the day ... Dragila no heights and is out of the competition ... That on the heals of both 200 meter sprinters being DQ's as well as our number 2 guy in the 400 ... Talk about string of disasters !!! All this following TRammell having to bow out of the meet due to a pulled hamstring ... So .... Where does today's wxcitement come from ??? I think Justin should be excited as the Brits look to do well in the 200 and 400 ...

Which raises the question: Is Britain now the number 2 sprint country in the world ????
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too bad about Dragilla. While I didn't exactly come out and say it, I did hint at thinking a championship environment would not be where we see the women move the record over 16 feet...

I also was worried Trammell might be getting a bit too greedy with the double. Good thing to do once or twice as a conditioning test, but eventually you have to focus in and let your body prepare for its one main activity.

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Is Britain now the number 2 sprint country in the world ????

It looks that way, but some might argue they're pretty close to #1 on occasion. Of course, I always give honorary #1 status to Jamaica for their heavy influence on other teams' makeup. Smile

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