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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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there is a paradox about training the body to such a peak of fitness that the stress of the training does weaken the immune system and then you get sick.

Definitely. Happens a lot more frequently than anyone wants to admit to themselves...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 7:58 pm    Post subject: MY FAVORITE MIDDLEDISTANCE RUNNER WINS Reply with quote

"__1 Regina Jacobs NIKE 4:01.63
2 Suzy Favor Hamilton NIKE 4:03.70 :"


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___The uberwoman wins over super model.
___Well, I did not intend to be that mean with respect to Favor Hamilton. There are certainly many women around the world who would like to run as well as her. However, in this level of sport competition a total and absolute dedication is needed, and any distraction (blown out of proportion by the mess media) will make you a little less competitive.
___Regina is a warrior, and I love warriors to win.
___I hope that she will medal in the world championships this year, and after her success in the indoor world championships this year, and even before the indoors establishing the world record (if I remember correctly), she will quiet the drug-use accusations.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzy's mental fortitude has long been in question. Looking good and modelling likely has nothing to do with that. She is who she is... It can only help the sport to have stars whom the camera likes...

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mental attitude is half the battle ... Is why Hamilton and Montgomery are not big winners despite their obvious talents ... Both sound like their heads are hollow when they talk ...

Dan I am with you on the seadings ... Screwed up all the way around ... I have no idea if they had a system or not ... Mo in lane one for the final was a joke ... If you use the finish and heat system he goes in lane 8 ... If you go by times he goes in lane 7 ... No way he goes lane 1 unless you just put him there ... And he wasn't the only one ... They never got it right ... I just point to Mo cause is caused his withdrawl ... Turns to tight to get a spot out of lane 1 in that field ... Dreadful ...

Yeah I watched the masters deuce ... I can do that .. I think ... Guess I will have to try ... But a nice spread and most of the guys do not look that fit ... I mean in shape but not as fit as one would hope for ... I think you guys know what I mean ...

Great 200's today ... Mo would have been hard pressed to get a spot ... Have to say that ... Would have needed to be in 5 to 7 to have a shot with the way he runs the turn ... Nice job by Patton and Capel ... JJ had to charge to make it ... good to see the effort from him ... But I see Capel and Patton medalling in Paris ... Both have time to get better ... And they will ...

I don't think Webb is going to recover ... I think he is done ... Just has that look about him ... NO confidence ... And doesn't seem as fit or motivated as in high school ... I think it is over for him ....

Women's hurdles was "off the hook" as they say ... Awesome race ... And one of my favorites made it ... Jenny Adams ... Something about her ... I think she is going to do well in Paris ...

Knakker looked good ... Nice and controlled ... Ran his race and did his thing .... Too bad he couldn't double ... I think he goes close to 1"42 this summer ... Just looked very much in control of his race ... Followed and took the lead when he was ready ... At least that is how it appeared to me ...

Kelli White is the MAN ... I don't think Marion would have beat her even if she were here ... Kelli just so strong right now ...

Lots more thoughts ... But mostly glad its over ... Now we know who is going to represent and time to put up or shut up .. All the way around ...
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2003 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing I can think of that might explain the seedings is that lane preferences are different on a 9 lane track (which Stanford is), but I don't think that comes into play unless you actually use lane 9... It certainly seemed like they were making up their own rules with regards to seeding. But hey, they chose to use the old false start rule instead of the new IAAF one, so why stop there? Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 6:12 am    Post subject: You may thing about it in two ways: Reply with quote

1) they were just very unreasonable,
2) Mo Green needed an excuse to quit, and they kindly provided him with one. I think that it is possible that MG was looking for a cake walk or something close to it in the 200 m competition, and got scared that he may not even get to the final,
3) as to the faul start rule: I think that since the US championships are an elimination for the worlds as well, the USATF did not want to put too much pressure or any one and get those able to perform the best. I understand that you can arguee with the point that I just made, but were do the leaders of the USATF come from 00's or 80's?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The USATF is resposible for seeing that the competion is run in a fair and equitable manner for all ... And that the competition conforms with the rules and regulations governing the sport ... Since there is an internatioanl false start rule and the athletes are being selelcted to compete in THAT environment, I think it is incumbent upon USATF to provide THAT rule in its selection competition ... IT is also incumbent upon USATF to provide - in advance - a listing of the rules under which the competition is being held .. In many case the way an athlete may compete during the rounds is dependent upon how the competition (and in this case seeding) is being conducted ... Fact of the matter is that if you look through the seedings the ONLY conclusion that one could come to is that it was all done randomly as no singlel method seemed to be in place ... Yet this is incorrect also as heat winners were always accorded decent lane assignments ...

As for USATF giving Mo an excuse ... I doubt that Mo needed any excuse other than to say he didn't want to run if that were the case ... Mo has already proven this year that he can compete on the level that was there this weekend ... He has been among the yearly leaders all season ... And in his last comeptitoin he and Capel ran stride for stride ... So to say that he was not prepared to run with these guys is heresay ... The 200 is a race however that is probably more dependent upon lane draw than any other as the tightness of the turn has a direct effect on how well you are going to be able to run the turn ... And on a track like Stanford's where the turn radius is extremely tight, Lanes one and two are virtually useless ... Anyone out there that can name the last major meet won from lane 1 in the 200 please tell me ... The last I can think of was in 1979 (I think, I'll have ot go back and look) ... Anyway ....
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conway, Speaking of Adams....do you think she has a better chance at a medal in the hurdles or the long jump? She is going on both isn't she? Her showing in the long jump didn't surpise me but the hurdles did. I figured her for middle of the pack.
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She's a 21' long jumper ... A 12.6 hurdler ... Definitely better in the hurdles at this point ... I think she can make the final ... And then who knows ... A 12.6 in the final will get her close to a medal ... A 12.5 will get her a medal in all likelihood ... I like her chances ... She performed well yesterday ... No fear in those eyes ... She knows she belongs ..
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