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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Africans vs. whites IN the 100m Reply with quote

It's proven that there have been whites that dominated in distance running but NONE in sprinting. There was never a white man to ever run a 9.8 ranged 100m in the history of history. Something is wrong here, and I don't think height is a factor here because there have been many tall white sprinters that have competed. Let's have it, all white sprinters come up with the best training programs, techniques, etc. but when it comes to actually sprinting, it's just out of the question. Not only that, but among sprinters of African decent, whites are a lot smaller muscle wise. Sprinters from African decent are just always beastly looking. What's an explanation?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/olympics/article4500094.ece
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Romania just won the women's Marathon. About distance running for women: whites dominate. We have the 10K record holder who's Chinese, and Russia who holds the world record in the mile, and UK that holds the world record for the marathon. There's probably more distances dominated by whites, but I'm too lazy to look them up.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whites tend to be better at swimming, I think... From what I've heard, Africans have denser bones, which helps them in distance running (with all the impact from hitting the ground so many times), but it hurts them in swimming because it makes them less buoyant in the water, so they don't 'float' as well as Caucasians.
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I think bone density is highly overrated when it comes to swimming: Jason Lezak. There are a few black gymnasts too. The main reason many don't participate in swimming or gymnastics is because of cultural differences, like a black man listening to country music. They have great potential, but they just seem to beat whites in pure speed. I mean I haven't heard of any whites even go under 10 seconds, and 9.69 to 9.99 is a HUGE difference. I think it's because of whites' personal ability to *know* how to run. That's why whites even get out jumped in basketball, etc. Ever heard the term white men can't jump? It's probably natural technique, for example, Africans tend to raise their knees higher when they run. I don't think it's genetics anymore from looking at a 9.69 to a 9.99 with no white man that I know of ever running under 10 seconds.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like saying white men can run the mile in 6 minutes and black men can run it in 4 minutes, and then saying it's just a genetic factor. Both races are built very similar, and natural selection about them running in Africa is purely overrated. They say that eastern Africans are prone to endurance, and western Africans are prone to speed. Eastern Africans get much more activity and are subjected to more stress then those in the west. Ok first of all, most white men in a 100m sprint are rarely close by the black sprinters at the end of the race. I've seen whites and Asians start just about the same as the black sprinters, but then for some reason they get erased within 50m. I thnk it has to do with the facor of losing speed too quickly in the beginning due to the distance of the strides over pure leg speed. I've had the same problem, but when I just halved my stride distance in the beginning and then doubled my foot speed, I was able to unwind much later and reach my full stride length, top speed towards the end. Why is it that whites jump, run, and walk differently than blacks? Just at first glance if we take two subjects from both races with barely any experience in basketball or sprinting, and get them to sprint and jump, there will be a clear difference in form, technique and style.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finally managed to come across a white sprinter that may even beat Michael Johnson's 400m:Jeremy Wariner. I changed my whole idea of sprinting whe nI saw him run the 400m on youtube. Let's face it, the 100m is about unwinding a the right time, but it's easy to make mistakes in, so the 400m is a better indicator. Jeremy Wariner simply won his 400m at Stockholm. There were several black sprinters behind him, and he outsprinted them. I looked closely at their forms, and both were using the exact form and movement, but Jeremy was just simply gaining more distance. This is when leg strength comes in. Pure strenth training of the legs is something that is widely neglected by sprinters. This is when I bring up the same scenario of how a runner that can leg press 500 lbs affects his running. With pure strength also comes endurance. Let's say one can curl 80 lbs at max in this case representing 500 lbs leg press. If he were given 50 lbs instead-representing normal amount of strength needed to sprint, he could curl that almost forever. So that means that with a 500 pound strength capacity, endurance is also present. Instead of having runners leg press 60 lbs 25 times for endurance, it would be more efficient to do pure strength training to have that higher maximum strength capacity in order to gain extra distance after the foot comes in contact with the ground-more force is put into the ground. There is one problem though: how do you adjust to pounding the ground much harder if you're still carrying the same amount of weight? I was thinking of a workout that literally allows one to pound his legs alternatively into the ground by standing in one spot. It's kind of like standing on a 2x2 foot hot coal platform, but also trying at the same time to dig the legs into the ground. That answers the whole stride distance area, but what about foot speed? Doing sprints allows for the growth of more fast twitch muscle fibers, but it comes to a point where no more foot speed is gained just by doing sprints so this is when resistance must be applied such as hill running, body weights, and parachutes.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So strength training improves maximum strength, but not power. Strength is defined as how much force can be exerted, and power is how fast a great force is exerted, for example: shot put. Strength example: power clean. Now when we take running, is generally power. How fast one can move their own weight in terms of speed only. Let's take the vertical jump as the independent variable here, and plyometrics, traditional weight training, and ballistics as the dependent variables. Traditional weight training leads to a 5% increase in vertical jump. So basically that means that power lifting does NOT help increase stride distance from the force exerted on the legs. Plyos give a 10% increase-so they're quite effective for developing stride distance/speed. Ballistics give 18% improvement (jump squats). http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/power-training.html

Plyos basically develop the speed of movement, but not the quality that ballistics do. In fact, both forms are necessary for sprinting-plyos for leg speed, and ballistics for stride distance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plyometrics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_Training

Some types of ballistic training that are running specific are jump squats and even weighted, running with weights, power cleans. So ballistic training is for exerting the greatest amount of force in the shortest amount of time. Ballistics may even knock down plyometrics, because they are basically weighted plyometrics that also train strength instead of just speed.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So for ballistic training:

Squat Jumps-3x5 with 3 minutes rest. Weight used in all ballistic training should be 30% of 1-RM.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's also pure coincidence. ONE white man got close to sub 10, but not close enough, instead the time was a 10 second flat 100m set by an Australian. Let's think about it, you're white, and you're in the finals. ALL the other sprinters next to you are black and just waiting to tear that single white sprinter apart, in fact that's also a rare case. Not even one white man made it to 100m finals in Beijing. Maybe white sprinters actually don't know how to sprint like blacks sprinters do. It's been about 70 years from Jesse Owens to Usain Bolt and not one white man since then has ran under 10 seconds.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And muscle can't be a factor either. There are huge whtie bodybuilders out there even bigger than Ronnie Coleman and Flex Wheeler. Whites have stood up in track from 400m on up. White athletes have competed successfully against black athletes in everything else but the 100m. Another factor may be that many whites actually think that they have no chance in sprinting because of black athletes. Even myself as an example, that idea of thinking that black athletes dominate sprinting kept me away from being a sprinter, and that's what happens with many other white people. This video for example shows exactly what I mean. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ilWaefe6bK4&feature=related
That single white sprinter managed to beat one sprinter...who was black. If blacks dominate sprinting so much, then that means that that one black sprinter next to the white sprinter just wasn't trained well enough. This means that white sprinters don't train well enough. Look at the technique and form from the white sprinter vs. all the others. The top speed is just mediocre, and all the other sprinters just gain distance ahead of him. You just don't see any gains in speed from the white sprinter towards the finish...he just remains at the same speed the whole time. I think it's just a total coincidence here that whites perform poorly in the 100m, and that coincidence is that they simply don't train leg strength as much and do enough speed work. It sounds kind of harsh, but that's the only explanation for this case when you don't have at least one white sprinter win the race or any other 100m races.

Now look at Jeremy Wariner as an example. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/400_metres How many of those other sprinters are white? It seems that Jeremy got the basics down in training such as doing more speed work, plyos, weightlifting, etc. Maybe what separates whites from blacks in the 100m is the level of training, the coincidence is that whites just never came by to do even more work than before. It's as if white sprinters never did any weight lifting opposed to black sprinters. And for those of you that think that Jeremy Wariner is just an exception in sprinting for his race, well then you've got it wrong. Clyde Hart has coached Michael Johnson, and is coaching Jeremy Wariner now. What does this tell us? Training DOES matter. There is a huge difference in white and black 100m sprinters, and there's definitely a big gap in the basics of training somewhere. Such a big gap would be represented by a big difference in a certain part of training such as whites absoluptely do no plyometrics, or half as many intervals than black sprinters, or maybe the intervals that whites do are like 100s. One area of their training is just completely wrong.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Why do whites hang along up to the 40th yard? Reply with quote

Why?
Well for the same reason that shot putters can beat dashers over initial 30 meters, if they do not use the standing start: power.

Dashers such as the Polish dashers and other European dashers make two main errors:
-1) 2 to 3 hours long weight--lifting sessions; the American School of Sprints advises, based on the success of the Bulgarian national Olympic-- weight--lifting team during the 1980's, 2 or 3 weight sessions a day, but none longer than 50 minutes;
-2) they do forget to keep on being relaxed until the end; if you look at the pictures of the Polish or Swedish 200 m runners at the end of a race; you are going to see extreme tension on their faces -- the Americans (from all Americas) do keep their faces and the rest of the body relaxed up to the finish line in spite of the effort.

2-3 hour--long sessions do give the Europeans great power to accelerate their bodies, but it is not the toppest speed power; moreover, such long sessions explain why for example the Poles are so injury prone; any weight lifting sessions over 1 hour long will lower levels of natural hormones in an athlete's body.

Non--relaxation at the end, even if making greater effort, will make the athlete slow down!

The Poles, except for Mr. Chyla, have been resistant to those simple truths so far, and try to believe that all the PanAmerican dashes are about is ... better labs and better doping.

I do admit that the North American dashes might not be as dominant without the dope, but I do truely believe that the North American School of Dashes is superior, and that even without the dope, the North American dashers would have consistently edged other athletes (possibly no 1-3 or 1-4 finishes, but still most medals in all events between 100 m and 400 m H).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Asians definitely tense up the MOST in the 100m. Now, there are white American sprinters, but still none of them have ran under 10.0. The only white man to run a 10.0 was Australian. If Oscar wasn't disabled, maybe he could do it too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think Asians definitely tense up the MOST in the 100m. Now, there are white American sprinters, but still none of them have ran under 10.0. The only white man to run a 10.0 was Australian. If Oscar wasn't disabled, maybe he could do it too.

Legal 10.00 were run by:
Marian Woronin POL (Poland) during the 1980's; the Polish national record (to be exact 9.992 seconds; he was 7th in both 100m and 200m finals and won the silver medal in the 4 x 100 m relay, 38.33 s -- another Polish national record, during the 1980 Moscow Olympics)
Koji Ito (Japan), over 10 years later, the Japanese national record.

Both men ran 10.00 after comming close to it on at least a couple attempts.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know...my statement sounded extremely biased, but there's just something that makes me say that Asians look like they tense up the most in the 100m. When you compare the distance of 100m to them...you'd mostly think that they have more foot speed than stride distance. If you were to put Usain Bolt next to a Japanese sprinter, there should be a definite difference in size. Where's the size and sculpture here? http://www.iaaf.org/mm/photo/competitions/other/38036_w400xh600.jpg
Now look at these too, they're shorter than Bolt, but their legs are like a pair of pistons: http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/tim_layden/08/26/sunday.worlds/p1.gay.powell.jpg

Asian sprinters don't have that raw power image like American sprinters do and the Polish, Lithuanians, etc. look like titans. That whole Slavik area of Serbians, etc. again, take on the image of titans. Asians are just not naturally bulky. The protein LACKS in their diets...and they're not the only ones. Ever heard of a Kenyan sprinter? Laughing
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