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[ssteve235]

http://www.komotv.com/home/video/14008152.html?video=pop&t=a

Personally, I think that is total bull. If an 11 year old kid was running a 4:50 mile, someone more important then some random 4:30 am news would be reporting on it. If theres a veriafable race in the near furture, ill believe.

[Dan]

It's not entirely unbelievable. That would be 5th or 6th grade, and there are lots of middle school kids running 4:25-30 for 1500 (roughly equivalent to a 4:50 mile), so that would make him only ~2 years advanced. And there are the occasional child prodigees that seem impossible at the time, like Mary Slaney being world class when she was 13.

Dan
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[Angelo Z]

Either way, it doesn't mean that that he can set a new limit on human nature. In the end, everyone is pretty much at the limit that the human body can allow. I just don't believe in talent either, I think it's just a word for some excuse to simply come up with an "explanation" as to why that person is so good in what they're doing. The real talent lies within the passion that the person has for the thing they do best and what they get out of it. As for him, he just developed a passion early on than what most other 11 year olds have. The "average kid" doesn't really have any goals or a certain thing that they do over and over again, they just live life normally and enjoy childhood (not saying that those that are talented don't enjoy childhood, they just live off satisfaction).
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[atsipootes]

I totally agree with Angelo and his thoughts about talent. I don't believe in talent too.
But if talking about that kid, there are a lot of young runners who shows really great results when they are 11-16. But maybe 90% of them don't show any good results when they are 18 and older. I don't know why this happens... But there are a lot of sportsmen who can't take the 2nd position. And this what happens for young runners when they get to man sport. From the 1st position they go to 10th or lower position. They can't stand this and most of them give up.
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[Angelo Z]

Because it deals with persistence. You just have to keep training to get faster. Haile has been running ever since he was a little kid, the only reason he still runs today is because he is persistent. It depends on each runner's goal-how far do they really want to take it?

What exactly is "running too much"? Is it how another person perceives another runner's mileage, or how detrimental the mileage itself can be for that runner? Maybe from your point of view, 100-120 miles a week is too much, but if that runner has built up to it properly by closely following the "law of stress and adaption", then they are not running too much. Running too much is what the body itself feels when...running too much. Injuries, little progress, and so on. Africans run a lot as well. You have groups of young African runners training together under one coach and they run loads of miles per week. Progression is key.
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