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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the benefits of running at 90% your max? What do you risk when you run at 90% your max?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you risk injury and burnout, but you potentially gain great muscle memory and cardiovascular conditioning. Seems like a good tradeoff to me, otherwise why bother with all the sweat and pain?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2001 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does seem like a good trade off to me too. Thats why it seems so funny to me that Americans dont do it. Isnt it true that at higher altitudes your heart is always forced to pump faster? So woudlnt the Kenyans have an easier time achieving 90% their max?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2001 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if that's true or not. If it is, I would assume the heart would also become conditioned to have a max rate, so it may balance out. Also, highly athletic people tend to have very low resting heart rates, so 90% is a very significant increase percentage-wise.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2001 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how often can you run at 90% of you max heart rate? And for how much of you run? Because you just can't do a 60 minute run that fast! I had trouble keeping my heart rate at 175 for more than 10 minutes.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2001 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Anderson's article, which I quoted a piece of on the training page, 50-60% of their training might be done at such a level. You could interpret that several ways, but it probably means a long run or two a week, combined with several runs revving it up pretty high. I've read that it's common for elite Kenyans to run at least part of every run, usually the last mile or two, at 4:30 pace for a 5 month buildup to the army XC nationals, as that is the pace required to win World XC.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2001 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you believe that Kenyans have a genetic advantage?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2001 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but I also think they train smarter and harder. Of course, they also tend to have shorter running careers, but they accomplish much more in that time.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2001 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, yes of course Kenyans are genetically gifted. The bad thing, is that every generation will get faster and faster, since the kids will be fast.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2001 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They wont necessarly get faster with each generation. There has to be some sort of circumstance that selects for only the fast in their habitat, then they would get progressively faster.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2001 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So...Anyone think South Koreans have a genetic advantage?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2001 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How so?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2001 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you see the South Korean win the Boston marathon?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2001 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't say I did. Been busy with other things...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2001 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. Just wondering seeing how it was the first time a non-Kenyan didn't win in 10 years. The race was also a huge boost for American Distance running do to the great performances from Cox and DeHaven..DeHaven placed 6th I believe...It's a pretty big deal.
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